Rory & Mal Respond To Recent Joe Budden Slander: 'It Pains Him'

Rory & Mal have responded to accusations made on a recent episode of the Joe Budden Podcast by saying that their former co-host is hurt by their continued success.

The duo named the latest episode of their New Rory & Mal podcast, “Accountability in Culture Pt. 2,” a direct response to Joe Budden‘s “Accountability in Culture,” which was released on Wednesday (October 19). In a clip posted to Instagram, Mal responds to allegations that he didn’t contribute to his former platform by saying he was willing to have a face to face discussion with Joe.

“I’m willing to go on your platform, your new show that still has my blood, sweat and tears in it. And I know that’s what pains him,” Mal said. “Every time he pay for pussy, that’s some of my money. Every vacation he takes a chick on, that’s some of my money he using. And that pains him.

“The most money he ever made in his life, he made sitting next to me,” he continues in the clip. “I know that pains him, but we had a beautiful thing. It worked. Every time he goes to the strip club, he throws singles; those is my faces on them singles. It hurts.”


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The Joe Budden Podcast episode which spurred Mal’s response was, in itself, a response to statements made during a previous episode of New Rory & Mal featuring CyHi The Prynce.

Towards the end of the conversation, CyHi referred back to an old comment Budden had made claiming he could rap better than him.

“You know what it is with me and you bruh,” CyHi said looking directly at the camera. “Any day you feel like you can rap better than me … I put my offer on the table and you rich enough to accept it but you ain’t accepted it.”

Mal then chimed in: “Yeah he stole enough. He stole enough he got it,” before Rory added: “He can pay you with my money!”

Once the comments made their way back to Budden, he returned with his own accusations, though he didn’t specify which of his co-hosts he was addressing.

“You’ve never pulled your own weight,” Joe Budden said. “The first never meant nothing to you. There’s never been like responsibility, you never got up and carried your own shit. There’s always been another n-gga around to help you do it, and you don’t speak to them n-ggas no more neither so this is not Joe specifically. Stop putting smut on my name. I’m gonna start showing up for myself ’cause that’s my problem with the fucking internet.”

Mal and Budden have not been on good terms ever since him and Rory’s time on The Joe Budden Podcast came to an abrupt end back in 2021. After getting fired, the two podcasters launched the New Rory and Mal weekly podcast later that summer, signing a lucrative deal with SiriusXM’s Stitcher.

“There were a lot of things we wanted to do in the old show that we weren’t able to because we just didn’t have as much control after a while,” Mal told Vulture at the time. “Honestly, all that started when every time we wanted to try something, the energy around it would just be like, ‘Ehh, I don’t know.’ Despite the fact that this is our show, you know what I mean? And then there were also a lot of business meetings that were happening that we didn’t know about.”

Budden at the time seemed to cryptically respond to Mal’s Vulture comments on his Instagram Story, writing: “They’ll question your character once you stop taking care of them.”